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Do Illegal Immigrants Pay Taxes?

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Originally published Feb. 28, 2011. Last updated Aug. 24, 2012

Yes, illegal/unauthorized/undocumented immigrants generally pay taxes the same way you and I pay them, but usually without access to the benefits that come with being a taxpayer.

How they pay

Income Tax

Every time you receive a paycheck, you probably notice that something is missing. That’s because your employer automatically withholds federal, state, and local income taxes and Social Security and Medicare taxes. Immigrants also have money automatically deducted directly from their paychecks —even those who are here illegally. But how? Well, the Social Security Administration estimates that 75% of undocumented immigrants are actually on formal payrolls and are paid by check just like anyone else. They get on the payroll by using fake or fraudulent social security numbers or social security numbers of the deceased, which are easily available from counterfeiters for a couple hundred dollars. A growing number of undocumented immigrants now file their income taxes using Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs). ITINs are issued by the IRS for filing purposes only and do not provide permission to work. According to the most recent estimates, at least 3 million unauthorized immigrants filed income taxes using ITINs in 2009. (NOTE: the IRS does not report undocumented immigrants to the Department of Homeland Security.)

Sales Tax

Every time you buy something, you pay sales tax. That money goes to state and local governments. Staying at a hotel or renting a car, you pay state and local taxes. If you fill up your gas tank, you automatically pay state and federal gasoline taxes. If you buy liquor or cigarettes, you automatically pay various local, state, and federal excise taxes. Immigrants—legal and undocumented—all buy things, and thus pay these taxes as part of their purchase.

Property Tax

Local governments also collect property taxes, which are a percentage of the value of one’s home and fund services like schools, certain medical services, and police and fire stations. Immigrants—legal and unauthorized—pay these taxes directly if they own a home, or indirectly if they rent (clearly, landlords factor property taxes into rent).

Possible overpayment

  • Unauthorized immigrants pay into Social Security via automatic payroll deductions, but they can never claim Social Security benefits because they are here illegally and because their Social Security numbers are fake. In 2005, it was estimated that undocumented immigrants paid about $7 billion per year in Social Security taxes that they will never be able to reclaim.
  • The Tax Policy Center estimates that 78 percent of American households that earned less than $33,000 owed no federal income taxes in 2011. Many low-income taxpayers only paid marginal amounts if they did owe. Because of their low income levels, most illegal immigrants would naturally fall into either of these categories. Many illegal immigrants don’t file, however, because they fear deportation. And if they don’t file, they are never refunded money that was automatically withheld from their paychecks. When a refund is owed but not paid out, that’s free money for the government.

Possible underpayment

  • Undocumented immigrants—and immigrants in general—are more likely to work in the informal or cash economy because these types of jobs are often the least desirable, most unstable and inconsistent, and lowest paid. Informal and cash jobs create big incentives not to claim cash income—undocumented immigrants and citizens alike find these incentives compelling. Most waiters and bartenders, for example, don’t claim and pay taxes on cash tips (or if they do, it’s usually just a small percentage). The high school student down the street usually doesn’t pay taxes on money earned from mowing your lawn or shoveling your driveway. Legally speaking, they’re supposed to claim this income.
  • Something important to keep in mind: the incomes of migrants working in the informal economy are generally so low—less than $13,000 per year, according a recent UCLA study—that most would ultimately be exempt from paying income taxes or have extremely low tax liability even if they did file and claim cash income.

Public Benefits

  • As taxpayers, most of us are eligible for an array of social safety nets like food stamps and unemployment insurance. The 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act barred illegal immigrants from receiving any welfare benefits except in medical emergencies. It also barred legal immigrants from eligibility for welfare benefits during their first 5 years in the country. So, no, illegal immigrants do not exploit welfare services quite simply because they are not eligible to exploit them.
  • In Plyler v. Doe (1982), the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional to deny undocumented immigrants K-12 public education. Denying education would not only be crippling to the immigrants themselves, but would have negative implications for the rest of society. But regardless, by directly or indirectly paying property taxes, undocumented immigrants pay into public education. In general, immigrants benefit from police service, firefighters, national defense, parks, and other public goods. But again, the taxes they pay contribute to paying for these services.
  • Fourteen states offer free prenatal and postnatal care to pregnant women who are the country illegally. Some state legislators justify these benefits as long-term cost-saving measures, others as being consistent with pro-life beliefs. Low-income women with children under 5 are also eligible for WIC benefits regardless of immigration status.
  • American-born children of undocumented immigrants are eligible for benefits like Medicaid and food stamps. But it’s important to remember that the recipients of these benefits are children that the 14th Amendment has deemed full citizens of United States.

Tax credits

The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration estimates that unauthorized immigrants received $4.2 billion in child tax credits in 2010. There is currently no legal mechanism that bans unauthorized immigrants from child tax credit refunds (although they are banned from refunds related to the Earned Income tax credit). Read more on this issue at FactCheck.org and the Washington Post.

Are unauthorized immigrants a drain on the system?

  • There’s no simple answer to this question because no one knows exactly how many people live and work in the U.S. illegally, exactly where they live, how much they pay in taxes, or the extent to which they benefit from public goods. This point underscores the difficultly of studying illegal immigration: the people involved do not want to be detected.
  • Any so-called “hard numbers” you see on the costs or contributions of illegal immigrants are often little more than guesses based on imperfect estimates of the size and distribution of the illegal population. This is the case with two widely-cited (and highly unscientific) “studies” on this topic: one from the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy and one from the Center for Immigration Studies.
  • It’s important to understand how certain organizations make their guesstimates. Guesstimates published by anti-immigration organizations like the Center for Immigration Studies, for example, include public services rightfully used by the American-born children in calculating the costs of illegal immigration.
  • At the federal level, some researchers believe that undocumented immigrants pay in more than they take out due to large and automatic contributions to Social Security that can never be claimed.
  • Figures vary greatly at the state and local levels. Areas with higher concentrations of undocumented immigrants, for example, spend more educating and providing emergency healthcare to undocumented immigrants than areas with lower concentrations. But this is not because undocumented immigrants are out to evade taxes and milk the system —as we learned above, most pay sales, property, and income taxes automatically and are ineligible for the vast majority of social services. Rather, the reason undocumented immigrants may take out more than they contribute has mostly to do with their status as low wage earners. Even if they use the same amount of public services as wealthier households, low-income households (be they made up of citizens or immigrants) are generally a net drain on public finances because our progressive system requires them to pay less income tax and by virtue of having less purchasing power, they pay less sales and property tax.

 

If you have further questions, please leave them in the comments section and I’ll do my best to address them.

153 Comments

  1. Daniel says:

    Would there be any negative effect to the Dream Act if it was Nation-wide? What would be the counter-arguments for passing the Dream Act Nation-wide

  2. Lynn says:

    Mr. Germano, thank you very much for providing a voice of sanity in the middle of such a rancorous debate, one I’m sure we haven’t even begun to see the last of. And please continue to spread the truth of the matter.

  3. Jim says:

    My question is how do we know who is here illegally. Your whole premise is based on the idea that illegal workers are here working with SSNs albeit fake and other fake documents. How do you know whose documents are fake or not and if you do know, why are the ones with fake documents still working?

    Thanks,

    • Roy Germano says:

      Jim, you’ve hit the nail on the head: we have no idea how many people are in the country illegally. Any numbers you see are guesstimates that are based on questionable assumptions about the share of undocumented immigrants who participate in surveys conducted by the US Census Bureau. The SSNs undocumented workers use are sometimes completely made up out of thin air–9 random digits. Other times they are real SSNs that already belong to people (sometimes deceased, sometimes living). SSN cards are basically just pieces of paper, so very easy to copy. And under current law, it’s not the responsibility of the employer to verify the authenticity of labor documents. Employers just have to see some combination of the acceptable documents listed on the I-9 Employment Eligibility Verification form.

  4. michele says:

    I find it unbelievable the IRS (a federal entity) sees no need to report people using “ITN” to the Department of Homeland Security (also a federal entity). Just another example of the ridiculous way our government is run. Seriously, they invented a way to get money out of people who will not legally enter our country. Everyone deserves the right to become an American citizen (provided they are not criminals in their own country) and there are legal ways to do this. They should be reported and deported if they are unwilling to obtain citizenship legally.

  5. musicguitar08 says:

    it’s great to know that you took the time to look into this and not stereotype immigrants, like alot of people i meet/ i really appreciate it

  6. Patty says:

    Thank you for clarifying all the issues people bring up about legal/illegal immigration status. I enjoyed reading your articles.

  7. Jason says:

    This is a great article, but just because it is prohibited by law for illegal immigrants to get social support such as food stamps or wellfare checks does not make it a reality. This is happening. It may be a crime to distribute fake ssi documents and food stamps, but few are ever arrested for those crimes. The majority of illegal immigrants may not take part in this, but those that do are costing us millions each year.

  8. Dork-o-Matic says:

    [...] apparently endorsed across the board judging from the icons on his photo, from NPR to Fox News, has this to say about undocumented immigrants the twenty-first century serf, and their drain on public [...]

  9. Tom says:

    Isn’t anyone concered about illegal immigrants obtaining SSN’s illegally? Its the equivilant of identity theft. Using an infants SSN might not have any impact today, but what about on down the road when the kid tries to get a car loan or apply for a school loan?….we send people to jail for identity theft….why not illegal immigrants?

    • retiredpersonin southflorida says:

      Actually, illegal use of actual SSN’s can have a positive result for someone whose number was being used! For example, if a person who is entitled to Social Security earns less than the “cap” for social security taxpaying purposes, but an undocumented worker is earning money under the same social security number, then the IRS would credit both of those two salary amounts to the same SSN, resulting in a larger Social Security payout for the “correct” person when (s)he starts collecting. I bet you won’t see anybody complaining about that.

      • Mike says:

        You must be kidding. Are you advocating fraud?

      • Mike says:

        I would bet the social security administration will want to find out why one individual would be collecting twice or why the income of an individual is listed as multiple employers during the same time span…..any way you look at it……it’s fraud.

  10. Tom Cline says:

    I grew up around where 50,000+ illigal imigrants a year come across the border. I have watched not only there, but in Washington state also. Most use fake SSN’s (ones that belonged to deceased or infants) in order to keep from getting caught, get bank loans, get social services. They do end up paying sales tax. The one’s who get bank loans to buy a house do have to pay property tax. They cannot get their tax returns or SSI due to the fake SSN’s. There are not any true numbers of how many come in. Chinese and Mexican seem to be the most prominent, but there are others. The county I live in and the one next to the one I live in cracked down after many banks had to get bail out money in order to stay in business. Funny how the truth comes out about the banks loaning out money to illigals..

  11. Angel says:

    How does the policy issued by President Obama affect immigration when it comes to illegal students in TN.

  12. Hue Jorgan says:

    I live in an agricultural area of Washington State. My experience is that illegal immigrants have access to and take full advantage of a wide range of social services paid for by tax dollars – including food stamps, k-12 education (including special resources for spanish speaking children and parents), free school lunches, child care, and health care. I know of two families that each had their children delivered in a hospital and the children (who I guess are citizens) needed to be taken by ambulance an hours drive to Seattle and received heart surgery and a week in intensive care at absolutely no cost to the parents – nada. There may a misconception that illegal immigrants don’t pay any tax (though most pay little or no federal income tax because of their income levels) but I think it is absolutely incorrect to suggest that they lack access to tax-funded social services.

    • Roy Germano says:

      Hue,
      Let me clarify a few things:
      - Unauthorized immigrants are not eligible for food stamps in Washington State or any other state. If you have observed unauthorized immigrants receiving food stamps, they are doing so on behalf of minors who are native-born citizens. As citizens, those children are entitled to the same benefits and privileges as other citizens. There are not different levels of citizenship that depend on parents’ immigration and citizenship status.
      - In Plyler v Doe (1982) the Supreme Court ruled that unauthorized immigrants should have access to K-12 public education. The effects of denying education to any group would not only be costly to individuals, but society as a whole. The article points that out–it’s simply not a controversial point.
      - 14 US states offer free pre- and post-natal care to unauthorized immigrants. Some legislators justify these allowances as long-term cost-saving measures, others as consistent with pro-life beliefs.
      - It’s unproductive to make generalizations on the basis of a single case you know so few details, as you’ve attempted to do in telling the story of the family whose child/children needed heart surgery. If the children were born in a Washington hospital, they are automatically citizens under the 14th Amendment. But their immigration status is beside the point. There is nothing controversial about providing life-saving care to an individual who can’t pay. As my article points out, everyone living in the US–citizens and immigrants alike–are entitled to medical care in emergencies whether or not they can pay.

    • Sonia says:

      I know of cases where individual are pay more taxes than legal immigrants and there is no way of obtaining any forms of refund and may also pay taxes twice on the same amount of money earned . Illegal immigrants cannot get any form of benefits . If a parents gets any form of benefits it is for their children who is a born American . Illegal immigrants work hard in this country for little or somethings no money at all .
      For once and for all illegals immigrant do not take away , any American Jobs . American takes job that are higher paid and they do not want to take low paying jobs , which is bad for the economy . It draws up the cost and demands for certain types of product . For example look on some of the countries that are doing well . They pay low salaries , so companies in American are now doing a lot of outsourcing , so we decide to take some of those low paying jobs and use less welfare our country will do a lot better . Obama administration is busy trying to create employing where it will create more spending power within the economic . American at one stage use to produce one of the best products in the world . Right now there are busy importing all types of foreign products . that is using of too much of our resources , which does no good for the country . We need to get back to producing at a lower cost . lets take a page from those poor country who are now making it . American went through one of the worst depression and made it . so lets do what we have to do .

      • Jo says:

        Sonia, you do make good points, but are forgetting that in over 80% of other countries would imprison and/or kill illegal immigrants for the simple reason of being in their country without government permission. The main countries that do this are the ones where illegal immigration to America is coming from (ie Mexico, Middle East, etc).
        I do like the point you made about Americans demanding more pay for what they do.
        Anyone that understands inflation would know that the demand for higher pay creates the cost of products to increase, and then the cost of living and “minimum” wage goes up. Minimum wage when I was 16 was $3.25/hour. By the time I’m 46 it will be at least 3x that much.
        There really is no right for anyone here illegally to complain about “unfair” treatment. “Illegal” means to break the law. If you break the law, you are punished. If an illegal immigrant wants benefits that legal citizens have, then they need to work at becoming legal. Find out what you (and your family) need to do, and do it. Do not give anyone any reason to doubt you as a person. Most people do not trust criminals, and that is what this is about. Illegal immigrants (in ANY country) are criminals, by the simple definition that they are breaking the law.

        • Roy Germano says:

          Hi Jo, just a couple thoughts:
          (1) Just because other countries treat unauthorized immigrants horribly doesn’t make it right. And it also doesn’t make it wrong to demand that everyone (even people who commit misdemeanors) be treated with compassion and respect.
          (2) The forces behind illegal immigration are much more complex than “‘illegal’ means breaking the law.” Of course, you’re right: doing something illegal is breaking the law. But when the laws are totally inconsistent with human behavior and global economic forces, then they’re bound to be broken. The question is whether we want to do a better job of regulating the immigration or if we want to continue to allow criminal elements, like smuggling rings and forgers, to make the rules. I opt for the former. Regarding the complexity of the decision to migrate illegally, check out my documentary (http://www.theothersideofimmigration.com), then read this article (http://roygermano.com/2011/03/24/go-to-the-back-of-the-line/).

    • retiredpersonin southflorida says:

      If the children were born in the US, then they are natural-born citizens and THEY are definitely entitled to whatever benefits other citizens are entitled to receive. In the case described, where the children needed medical care, it was the children who received the benefits. The fact that they were loved and cared for by non-citizens is irrelevant in this case.

  13. Gaby Vega says:

    Just because someone “looks” Mexican does not mean they are illegal immigrants, that is very narrow minded. a lot of European come to the U.S. with tourist visas or student visas and stay here when their visa expires and let me tell you, they are as illegal as any Mexican that just crossed the border illegaly.

  14. latina says:

    Hi Roy,
    I’ve lived in the U.S for 11 years now. I was brought when I was young, went to school here and now have two kids is there any way I can get my residence? Thanks in advance :)

    • Roy Germano says:

      Right now it’s very difficult to transition to legal status if you’re in the US illegally, even if you were brought here as a kid through no fault of your own. The only way you can get legal status is if (a) you’re sponsored by a spouse or other close family member who is a citizen; or (b) if the DREAM Act passes in the near future (which it may) and you meet the requirements of the particular bill that makes it through Congress (e.g., you’re under 30, have served in the military or gone to college for 2+ years, no criminal background).

  15. Angel says:

    What would be the best method for an illegal student to try to attend college in the Tennessee, if the student is a junior ,has a 4.0 average,is involved in the community, and is enrolled in A.P and IB(International Baccalaureate program) courses?

    • Roy Germano says:

      Just apply– a student with that record should not have a problem getting into college. The problem will be paying for college. Tennessee doesn’t allow in-state tuition for unauthorized immigrants. And unauthorized immigrants aren’t eligible for federal financial aid.

      • Angel says:

        Thank you ,and as for the money, my family has saved around 60-80 thousand just for my educationAlso are there any colleges in the country that would give me scholarships for colleges.Also what would be the best way for me to become a citizen as of right now or while I’m in college.Thank you again.

        • Roy Germano says:

          Right now it’s very difficult to transition to legal status if you’re in the US illegally, even if you were brought here as a kid through no fault of your own. The only way you can get legal status is if (a) you’re sponsored by a spouse or other close family member who is a citizen; or (b) if the DREAM Act passes in the near future (which it may) and you meet the requirements of the particular bill that makes it through Congress (e.g., you’re under 30, have served in the military or gone to college for 2+ years, no criminal background).

        • Megan says:

          You shouldn’t be allowed to go to college if you’re not a U.S. Citizen. That’s bogus and it makes me mad. So you most certainly don’t deserve any scholarship of any kind. Why would you need one if your family saved 60-80 grand anyway???

          • Roy Germano says:

            It doesn’t make sense to me why non-US citizens enrolling in US universities would bother you. Our universities (and economy) benefit greatly when the best and the brightest come here to study.

          • retiredpersonin southflorida says:

            In my day, colleges and universities were actively recruiting “international students.” I don’t really understand why this should anger you.

            As for “deserving” of scholarships, keep in mind that not all scholarships are paid for via the taxpayers’ nickels. There are plenty of private foundations that offer scholarships, and plenty of private colleges and universities that offer scholarship funds (raised mostly from alumni contributions) to deserving students on the basis of need. Perhaps you would like to also outlaw all imported goods, since taxpayers are paying for those goods with US dollars (albeit their own, hopefully but not always hard-earned) but the dollars wind up at least in part as profit for the foreign companies that sent the items to the US.

          • Mike says:

            There are many non US citizens going to US schools……that is not a problem because there are many US citizens going to schools in other countries. The difference is many states give in-state tuition to illegal immigrants while US citizens do not get cost breaks for attending schools in other countries….

  16. Jonny says:

    I agree with what you say completely, however I can’t find a source for your statistic “that 75% of undocumented immigrants are actually on formal payrolls”. I read the article but still could not find it. This figure may seem a bit high to most people, and I find it pretty interesting, but I would like to know where it came from. Thank you!

    • Roy Germano says:

      Toward the end of the first page of the NYT article it says:

      “Our assumption is that about three-quarters of other-than-legal immigrants pay payroll taxes,” said Stephen C. Goss, Social Security’s chief actuary, using the agency’s term for illegal immigration.

  17. Katie says:

    My father has lived in the US as an illegal immigrant for about 10 years. He now wants to apply for an ITIN and he was wondering if he has to pay for all the years he hasnt payed taxes for if he does get an ITIN. My Father gets payed in crash and no sort of money is deducted from his salary. Will he encounter a problem if he does apply?

  18. Maria says:

    Hi,

    An illegal worker worked for a freind of mine last year. He wants to send him a 1099 but does not have a valid ss number or ITINs to send it to. Is it to late for the illegal worker to get a ITIN for last years 1099 MISC earnings? Is my freind taking a risk of getting audited or fined for working an illegal worker? Thanks

  19. Joel says:

    I love your articles! What time do you speak at the University of Iowa on the 29th?

  20. Ger says:

    Hello Roy, Very nice article
    I have some questions. I am an international student and I know I can only work on campus but what if i have the chance to work off campus. I have a valid SS but it says “work only with DHS authorization. So I cant give that number. I now of a job they will only ask me for a SS# and an ID thats it. but they need the SS# to enroll me in the payroll. My questions are. If I take the job and try to work and they pay me with checks. can the IRS or somebody track that check down? can they find out I am that student that cannot work? how do I know I have to fill out a income tax but if I do have to fill it out, can the us government find out? In GENERAL how IRS DHS or anybody can find out somebody is working illegally in the United States.

    Thank you for your answers.

    • Roy Germano says:

      I assume you’re here on an F-1 visa. If so, you are only permitted to work on campus for up to 20 hours a week while school is in session. Off campus work is not permitted on an F-1. My advice: follow the rules and study hard.

  21. l Millard says:

    thank you for this article, I share it with all my closed minded bigoted friends on facebook

  22. Marci says:

    Our new payroll company has just discovered that one of our employees has a SS# that’s invalid. How can he get one that is a valid number?

    • Roy Germano says:

      If he’s in the country or working illegally, he will need to go through the proper channels to obtain a real SSN, but at this point, that is very difficult and time consuming.

    • Terry says:

      become a U. S. citizen…

      • Roy Germano says:

        Terry, becoming a citizen isn’t the only way to get a valid SSN.

        • maria says:

          Hi Roy, and thanks in advace for your usefull articles! can u pls explain me a little more on how to get and valid SSN when u say that becoming a citizen is not only the way to get a vali ssn ? some advise will be grate !
          im illegal in the country i enter with a visa but it expired and i stay here i apply for a tax number id a month after i arrive here and i have been paying taxes for multiple jobs and incomes i am making ( i work for my own ) but want to try to open a business here and need some advice and help to return to US what is necesary bcz im here but i want to make the things right !
          thans and good belss u !

          • Roy Germano says:

            Maria,
            You can obtain an SSN if you legally authorized to work in the United States. This includes people who are legal permanent residents (i.e., people who have green cards) and people on temporary work visas (e.g., H-1B, H-2A, H-2B, etc). Students with J-1 and F-1 student visas are also usually eligible for SSNs. To my knowledge, there is no way to get a valid SSN if you’re in the country illegally.

  23. Dorka says:

    I started to work in a company with a fake social security back in 2001, i recently got my green card and my boss updated my records with my real social security, however i encountered a problem, i was accruing my 403b that the company was depositing in my account,i got 2 different statements one with my fake social with a balance of 12k and the new one with 308 dollars, i was told that the company is consulting with a lawyer if to deposit this money to my real SSN, is there any chance to get this money if they decide to take it away since i used a fake SSN? i appreciate any comments on this.
    thanks

  24. Rukfas says:

    Hi Roy,

    I am quite amazed by this article of yours and I give you props for it!
    I am an international student in the US, senior, and I have this idea of opening my own business but I don’t have an SSN or ITIN and without it I just can’t do it. I don’t want to go any illegal way to start it, for example use SSN of a dead person.
    If i found a job on campus, which I am legally eligible to do, employer would then fail for the SSN for me and I would get it within a month or two (at least that’s how I understood my university officials). Now even if I do that, university prohibits me to work off-campus and threatens me with losing my visa status if they find out I am working off-campus. This all seems legit and I comply to it but my question is, if I were to open a business on my name and with my own SSN, would school be able to track it down and how?
    Because you know this matter better than me, please advise me if there are some other issues I should worry about, or some other things to consider. Thank you!

  25. Jonathan says:

    Illegal immigrants do pay taxes, but I have to disagree with the idea that they dont get most of what they pay, since they can use their fake numbers to receive medicare/medicaid, their children can legally receive such welfare benefits, and public services, like education and emergency care, like you stated, are still available.

    Nonetheless, the fuss over illegal immigration is likely a result of our bad economy, but the truth is regardless of whether they give or take more, in the end its really significantly insignificant to the US as a whole, since illegal immigrants account for at most 4% of the population, and when our debt is over 10 trillion dollars, their economic impact is rather petty. Most importantly, this country is built on immigration and this country is defined by its cultural diversity. And their impact on their local communities and their friends and neighbors is priceless.Which is why people should stop blowing this issue out of proportion,and stop blaming illegal immigrants for our immense debt, and take responsibility for their own actions and mistakes.

    • Roy Germano says:

      Jonathan,
      Except for an incorrect statement about illegal immigrants receiving Medicare/Medicaid benefits, I think you make some great points. People constantly blow this issue out of proportion, and you’re good to that out.

      • devin field says:

        I work in a pharmacy, and I have to say, I often see mexicans with no knowledge of English getting medicaid, and not just their children. I can’t 100% assume they are illegal, but it happens so often, I can guess that some are. Whether or not this is has a significant enough affect to raise alarm (though, I’d say any medicaid fraud should), I don’t know, but we should still acknowledge it rather than blowing it off.

        • Roy Germano says:

          Undocumented immigrants aren’t eligible for Medicaid.

          I caution you against making assumptions about people’s immigration status on the basis of language or appearance. I’ve met plenty of white Europeans who are in the country illegally and many Spanish speakers who are in the country legally.

          • Gaby Vega says:

            Racial profiling at it’s best!

          • retiredpersonin southflorida says:

            There are still Italian great-grandmothers in New York City who speak no English. Somehow, people don’t have quite the same negative response to them as to non-English-speaking people with swarthy complexions. Wonder why not…

          • Juliet1994 says:

            If they have a fake ssn though, doesn’t that mean they can obtain medicaid somehow?

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